Showing posts with label comics history. Show all posts
Showing posts with label comics history. Show all posts

Saturday, February 16, 2019

My History of Buying Comics: 1977-1990

The following is a chronology of my history of buying comics as a child.  One of the useful things about comics is that they usually have the date on them.  If you remember buying the comic when it first came out, the publication date will confirm when you bought it, at what age.  Then you can reconstruct a timeline of your purchases later, which is the purpose of this blog post. 

     The first comic book that I ever remember owning was JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #143, which shows Wonder Woman and Superman fighting on the cover.  According to Mike's Amazing World of Comics, this issue was released on March 3, 1977, with a cover-date of June 1977.  (Traditionally the date on the cover is a few months ahead of the actual date on which the comic appears on the stands.  All of the on-sale date information and cover images in this blog post comes from the aforementioned website.)

     I no longer have JLA #143, so I don't know if I would recall any of the interior pages.  Even as a child, though, I remembered this particular issue as being my first comic, and that JLA was the first series that I followed with any regularity.  I'd bought JLA simply because it had the most recognizable heroes in it (Superman, Batman, etc.) which I was probably familiar with from merchandising and other media, such as the Superfriends cartoon.  (Incidentally, the TV show is apparently spelled as two words -- Super Friends -- but I always spelled it as one word, and old habits are hard to break.)

      I was born in November 1970, so I would have been 6 years old when I obtained this comic, sometime in either March or April of 1977.  I was not yet a comics fan or collector, and most of my comics purchases would be bought around the time of their release at the local drugstores and convenience stores like 7-11, as well as local bookstores (my hometown had two bookstores for most of the 1980s).  I wouldn't learn about comics shops until around 1980.  The only way that "old" comics could be obtained back then was either from an older acquaintance (hand-me-downs) or in one of the bagged comics, usually 2 or 3 for $1, that could be found at supermarkets and some department stores.  Such bagged comics were usually only a couple years old at best -- most were fairly recently published.  Prior to visiting a comics shop circa 1980, the "oldest" complete comic book that I had in my possession would generally be no older than 1975.

     The first Marvel comic that I ever bought, if my memory is correct, would be WHAT IF? #5, which presented a parallel universe story about Captain America.  (Therefore this is also the first Captain America comic that I ever bought.)  This double-sized issue went on sale July 26, 1977 (cover-date Oct. 1977).  I'm not sure, but I may have gotten this at a local drugstore, Chuck Gerlach Drugs, which for some reason I associate with some of my earliest comics purchases.  (I don't recall the store carrying comics in later years, or even recall my family going in there much at all.) 

     Another comic that I recall getting early on was WORLD'S FINEST COMICS #248, which went on sale Sept. 20, 1977 (cover-dated Dec. 1977/Jan. 1978).  This was a Dollar Comic, a format that was popular at the time because it was a lot thicker than a regular 32-page comic.  (This issue ran 80 pages.)  Judging by the above comics purchases, it appears that all of my initial comics were thicker and more expensive than the traditional comic.  Incidentally, at age 6, I'm sure that my comics were purchased for me by my mom.  Soon however I would get an allowance or occasional spending money and would purchase comics on my own.  There were a few other kids my age on my street, and we tended to agree that DC's Dollar Comics were a good bargain and especially good for keeping one occupied during long road trips.  (I would keep this advice in mind when my family took a vacation two years later, when I bought an issue of World's Finest in Missouri.)

   I recall buying AVENGERS #170 (cover-date April 1978; on sale January 17, 1978) and KARATE KID #14 (cover date May/June 1978; on sale February 7, 1978) around the same time, perhaps even in the same purchase.  I recall that I bought the Avengers comic at West Grange Drugs, at its old location, a year or two before it moved a couple doors down to an expanded location (and would eventually stop carrying comics for most of the 1980s). Both covers featured a silver artificial woman as the central figure. But the Avengers cover showed the heroes opposing each other, unlike the DC cover. I asked my dad (or so I remember) which cover he thought was better, and he said the Marvel one because it was more detailed. I agreed, and began buying Avengers regularly, gradually abandoning DC for the next few years. I liked the strong friendship of Captain America and Iron Man shown in the issue ("You lead, I'll follow. That's enough," I recall Cap saying).


     My first real exposure to Superman comics was in March 1978 when my oldest brother gifted me a copy of the hardcover Superman from the 30s to the 70s book. As the title suggests, this book consisted of reprints from the earliest Superman stories in 1938 to the more recent (early 1970s) tales of note. My awareness of cultural/societal changes through the decades can be traced to this book, and its Batman counterpart volume (which I was gifted with the same month, according to the front inside cover's inscription, shown above). I was given the Shazam! from the 40s to the 70s book the following year (Feb. 9, 1979, as the red image above shows). These books not only helped make me a comics fan for life, but also increased my interest and awareness of history, with their focus on how each decade affected the comics.


     Being only 7 years old in 1978, I didn't understand that an advertisement asking readers to request the Superman comic strip in their local newspaper was reprinted from Superman #1 (in 1939), and thus no longer valid. Not realizing that I was nearly 40 years too late, I dutifully filled out the form (I've edited-out the street address here) but thankfully didn't cut up the page and mail it in.  Although I greatly enjoyed the Superman and Batman stories in these books, I wouldn't begin to regularly buy new issues of either series until 1985 (age 14).  I assume now that the reason for that is my drift toward Marvel partisanship at this time.  Marvel titles were generally viewed as more "serious" and "realistic" by the kids on my street, and since I couldn't buy everything, I decided to focus on Marvel over DC.

     Another inducement to buying Marvel was their reliance on continuing stories.  To keep up with the latest developments and not feel left out, a reader had to buy the next issue -- and sometimes even another series (if there was a crossover).  My discovery of The Avengers happened to coincide with a multi-issue story arc that would later be called "The Korvac Saga" where members of the team began to mysteriously disappear.  I think that I missed both Avengers #171 and 173 when they were released, but I recall getting #172 (on sale March 21, 1978).  The thing I remember about this comic is that one of my sisters showed me how the lettering inside comic books use all-caps instead of a combination of upper and lower case letters as most printed text uses (such as this blog entry).  Upon learning that, I would try to emulate comic book style lettering in my own amateur comics. 

     The first issue of Cap's solo series I bought new was #229 (Jan. 1979). I may be wildly misremembering all this (I had just turned 8, after all), but here goes: I was angry because I'd wanted a Star Trek toy at K-Mart the previous day and my mom hadn't let me get it. So my oldest sister took pity on me and took me with her to West Grange Drugs -- at its new (present) location by this time, I believe -- and let me get any comics I wanted. 


     I think I may have gotten 7 comics that day, which would have been the most comics I'd gotten at one time. (This was back when new comics were 35 cents each, so she spent less than $3 total on them, but at the time I was greatly impressed by her generosity!) I believe that I got the 3 comics shown here on that November day, plus Avengers #180 as well. No wonder I became a comics fan! At the impressionable age of 8, I was thrown into the middle of a crossover between Cap's series and the Hulk's comic (far from being confused by the concept of a crossover, I found it thrilling), plus got a reprint of a classic 1968 Cap comic (also guest-starring the Hulk) drawn by the innovative Steranko!

     Prior to the 1990s, I bought most of my new comics at local drugstores, not comics shops, and therefore I occasionally missed issues -- some I never even saw till years later. Thus, the next issue of Cap, #230 (Feb. 1979), I didn't buy (or see) when it came out new. It was probably a year or so later that I spotted the issue sitting on a table in a local paint store, among some other comics (such as Charlton's E-Man) that were meant to occupy children while their parents shopped in the store. It wasn't intended for sale: it was being used like the magazines in a doctor's office. By 1980 (age 9) I had decided that Captain America would be the one series that I'd deliberately collect, so one day (probably that year) I worked up the nerve to go in the paint store and ask if I could buy #230 from them. I can't remember what they said (perhaps they gave it to me for free), but that well-read copy of #230 remains in my collection to this day.

     The first issue of Daredevil I ever saw (not counting the reprint of #1 in Son of Origins, which was at the local library) was #155 (Nov. 1978), shown below at left. I found the character intriguing and began buying DD regularly with (I believe) #156 (the middle cover shown here), which would mean that I bought my first issue of DD the same month I bought my first new issue of Cap (#229, Jan. 1979). 


     DD's writer was Roger McKenzie, who was also writing Cap at the time. DD would soon guest-star in Captain America #234-236 (June-Aug. 1979) at the same time that DD was acquiring a new penciler, Frank Miller (beginning with DD #158, May 1979). I bought DD regularly until #164 (May 1980) when I abandoned DD (except for buying #169) for the next few years -- not buying it again until #189, when Miller's run was ending.  Why did I drop DD? By 1980 (age 9), I'd decided to "collect" Captain America and traded away most of my DD issues to a neighbor in exchange for some of his 1975-77 Kirby Cap issues. I'd picked Cap over DD, Kirby over Miller, and figured there was no reason to keep buying DD after having traded away those issues. Ah well!


     By the summer of 1979 (age 8), I was buying more comics than ever. For example, I know that I bought new at least six Marvels cover-dated Sept. 1979: ASM #196, Avengers #188, Cap #237, Defenders #75, Iron Man #126, and X-Men #125. The month before, I'd bought Cap #235-236 (perhaps in one purchase), the last 2 parts of the team-up with Daredevil (which I was also still buying at this time). 


     The first 8 pages of #236 (Aug. 1979) showed Cap plummeting thru the sky while DD was in a WWI plane that was likewise crashing toward earth. This scene showed that a comics page could be as thrilling and unpredictable as any movie (and, in fact, anticipating the thrills of Raiders of the Lost Ark, which I saw at age 10 when it came out in June 1981).

     I bought Marvel Premiere #49 (Aug. 1979) when it was first released, at age 8. This issue was a mystery tale, which I remember thinking clever at the time (mysteries were the genre that I recall preferring as a child), written by Mark Evanier, penciled by Sal Buscema and inked by Dave Simons. (As many know, Dave died of cancer in 2009.  I was extremely humbled when he friended me on Facebook a few months before he passed away.)

     The Falcon was the first mainstream African-American superhero, debuting in Cap #117 (Sept. 1969). Ten years later he finally had this try-out issue of his own solo comic. Falc had shared billing on Cap's series for most of the 1970s, but the team-up ended in 1978. In Avengers #181 (March 1979), Falcon was recommended for membership in the team for affirmative action reasons (causing Falc to sarcastically refer to himself as "The Token"). Falcon returned from his Marvel Premiere solo adventure at the beginning of Avengers #189 (Nov. 1979), but left the team in Avengers #194 (April 1980). It seems like Marvel didn't know what to do with the character. He had a 4-issue solo mini-series in the early 1980s, but has mainly been a supporting cast member in Cap's comic for the past 30 years. I've long thought that Falcon deserved his own regular solo series, though (more on that perhaps in a future post).



     One of the cool things about comics is that if you remember when and where you bought an issue, you can pinpoint the date of purchase fairly easily. To me, the two comic books shown above will always be "the new issue" because I bought them the day that they were first released at the local Lawson's convenience store.

     According to The Comic Reader #177 (Feb. 1980), Avengers #196 and Incredible Hulk #248 (both cover-dated June 1980) were released the week of March 18, 1980. (No DC comics were released that week.) I was only 9 years & 4 months old that week when I walked up to Lawson's with some friends to buy comics.

     But the clerk had a surprise for us. As we were looking at the comics on the spinner rack, he informed us that the new comics had just arrived and were still stacked and bundled on a back counter. He cut open the bundles and let us buy any that we wanted before they had even had a chance to be put on the racks! We felt like we would be among the first people in the country to read these brand-new issues.

     Shown at the bottom of the above image are TCR's list of other comics that came out that week. The only other issue on the list that I know I bought new was Tales to Astonish #7 (an unusual photo-backdrop cover); I probably bought that issue on this day as well, although I don't know for sure. (I may have bought Hulk #247 that day, too, since I seem to recall getting both #247 & 248 together.)

     Thanks to the dates printed in the published comics, one can confirm one's memory of a notable day in one's distant past.


     Looking at a cover gallery of Amazing Spider-Man issues online, I was struck by the fact that I became a regular buyer of that series (and many other Marvel titles) at such an early age -- this information made clear by the fact that the dates were listed below the covers on the website I was looking at.

     The first issue of ASM I ever recall buying was #184 (Sept. 1978). I seem to recall buying it at Gerlach's Drugs, which would mean that I was 7 years old. The next issue I bought was #185 -- pretty unusual for me back then, to happen to buy two issues in a row, when it was more common for me to somehow miss large numbers of issues in a run. I bought a few issues of ASM after that, although the only one of these early acquisitions I still have in my collection (my original copy, that is, and not a replacement bought later) is #196 (Sept. 1979; age 8) which I seem to recall getting at Page One bookstore.

     The ASM cover gallery at left shows the starting point of my more dedicated buying of the series. I bought ASM #209 (Oct. 1980) and did not miss a single issue of the series for the next few years, until around #253. What prompted this new dedication? I was only nine years old, soon to be ten, and had finally begun to self-identify as a comics fan. 
In Sept. 1980 (age 9), I wrote a letter to my older brother (who had helped foster my interest in comics) letting him know what comics I was collecting, all of them Marvel titles.  I considered myself a collector, but was really just a little kid buying comics off the spinner racks at local drugstores, with only an occasional trip to a comics shop when I was lucky. But being a "collector" means that I still have most of the comics that I bought back then. How many people still have things that they bought when they were nine years old?


     Another explanation for my increased interest in comics, as I look at the cover dates, could be that 1980 (or late 1979) was (I believe) the year that the Lawson's convenience store opened, located only a few blocks from my home. Lawson's was the place that I bought comics the most through the 1980s, so if Lawson's happened to carry a comic, I'd be less likely to miss an issue. (I seem to recall that Byrne's FF run was not available at Lawson's, and I had to get that when I could at the 7-11 which was further away, and ended up missing issues as a result.)

     I had a mail subscription to ASM by #219 (Aug. 1981, age 10) and would continue to get the series in my mailbox every month until I finally let it drop with #251 (April 1984, age 13). I had grown bored with Marvel superheroes by this point and was branching out, trying other companies and genres. The month after I let my sub lapse, however, I went to Lawson's and saw the cover of #252, showing the debut of Spidey's new black costume on the cover. That issue went home with me.

     However, I stayed away from picking ASM up again semi-regularly until 1986, after I'd acquired some recent issues in a trade with a classmate. But once again, my interest soon waned and I was picking it up less frequently in 1987 and 1988. Todd McFarlane began his ASM run with #298 (March 1988, when I was 17) -- two issues after I'd dropped ASM again -- and I gave it a try with #301 (June 1988). But the novelty wore off quickly, and I didn't buy another issue of Spider-Man again for almost 10 years. Another factor may have been my lack of spending money after high school graduation (and the increase in the price of comics), but my lack of enjoyment was also a big factor. Also, the local Lawson's store, where I had bought so many comics over the years (and which had been renamed "Dairy Mart" in June 1987), closed down in mid-1989. New comics purchases became less frequent and didn't generate the excitement or wide-eyed wonder that they had ten years before, when it was all new to me.

     Everyone has their Golden Age when they first became a fan of something, first loved it, and then gradually became disillusioned and moved on to something else. Sometimes I forget how early it was that my interest first began (which would be at 9 years old, if we cite #209 as the starting-point of the "never miss an issue" mentality) and how early that interest fades (dropping my sub in boredom with #251 at age 13). Sometimes that interest can reoccur, but sometimes (as with, for me, Amazing Spider-Man), that interest peaks around age 11 and never returns.


     One difference between then and now was that you could be a "comics collector" and still get the majority of your comics at the local 7-11 rather than a comics shop. The spinner rack of new comics at the local bookstores (my local hometown had two bookstores for most of the 1980s) received their new comics a week or so before the local convenience stores did, so it was a way of getting a jump ahead of one's friends about what was happening in a title that we followed. (This was back when I was around 10 to 12 years old. After that, reading comics was primarily a solitary activity. But before age 13, there was always some excitement on the block whenever a new issue of Avengers came out, especially to see what was on the cover.) It's hard to believe now, but in the 1980s, almost every town in my Downriver neighborhood had at least one bookstore.

     Comics shops in the 1980s tended to be much further from home and sometimes short-lived enterprises. The first comics shop I went to as a child, a store called Book Bin, was actually a used paperback book store which had comics as a sideline, on one side of the room. That store was still in business until just a few years ago, but was not really a "fan" hangout or anything. Comics were just a sideline there, not the main business. But it had more comics than could be found elsewhere around here at the time, including some new independent titles (like Cerebus) and a small back issue section.

(BOOK BIN in 2006, a few years before it closed.)
     At the time, the main attraction of comics shops were the back issues -- something you couldn't get anywhere else. In 1980, you could still find Marvel comics with 30-cent cover prices in the bagged comics at grocery stores. 25-cent cover priced comics could also sometimes be found, but were considered by the kids on the block to be the oldest comics around -- until we found out about comics shops. And that's when we started getting the 1960s stuff. We were "collectors" now, after all, so we had to build up our collections. The kid down the street specialized in Avengers. Not wanting to repeat his collection, I had chosen Captain America to be my focus. The kid next door collected Iron Man. Of course we also bought other titles, but we felt like we had to choose one long-running title to specialize.

     By the end of the year (Dec. 1980, shortly after I turned 10 years old), I had a letter published in Captain America #255 (cover-dated March 1981). The letter asked a question about Cap's origin and made references to previous depictions of his origin in #109 and #176, so clearly I had already started buying old comics at a comics shop (which, at this time, was still the half-a-comic-shop Book Bin).

     In 1983, a new comics shop appeared in the neighborhood, one called Comics Galore. This was a full-on comics shop, with a wall full of new releases, boxes of bagged back issues, and on the floor the cheap bins of unwanted comics (25 cents each or 5 for $1.00). It was in the cheap bins there that I discovered the "pre-Marvel" 1950s/early 1960s horror & monster comics, via 1970s reprints in Weird Wonder Tales, Chamber of Chills, etc. On the new comics shelf there, I discovered the Red Circle (Archie) comics which were a welcome respite from the Marvel comics that I'd grown bored with. You can read more about my purchases at Comics Galore at this previous blog entry which explains in detail how I first became a fan of Steve Ditko. (In fact, you might want to go read that entry now and then come back here to read this one, since it helps fill the gap of an important year, 1983, in the evolution of my reading tastes.)

     Comics Galore had a copy of Tales of Suspense #4 (July 1959) under glass by the register. If I recall right, the price was $18, a huge amount of money. As a collector of Captain America, I knew that eventually I'd have to get every issue of Tales of Suspense as well, so I saved up and eventually had enough money to buy TOS #4. But I had waited too long. During the next family outing, sometime around late 1983 or early 1984, when we went to the place where the shop had been located, we found that it had been replaced by a pizza shop.

     In 1985, I ordered from Mile High Comics for the first time, through the mail. I'd gotten my hands on mail-order comic catalogs before, but this was the first time that I finally ordered from one. They had been advertising comics in Marvel at the time for cheap prices, so I bought several issues of indie titles that I had not yet seen -- Jon Sable Freelance, Destroyer Duck, Twisted Tales -- as well as 1970s titles like Where Monsters Dwell and Shade the Changing Man. Getting a box in the mail from Mile High was quite an event; those comics still feel "new" to me because I remember what it was like getting them in the mail. 

     By 1987 (age 16), a new shop arrived in Wyandotte called Comic Gallery which epitomized why the late 1980s was such a great period for comics. I bought my first issues (#3 and #7) of Yummy Fur there (a comic that I sought out after learning about it in the January 1988 issue of Comics Buyer's Guide when Mark Burbey praised the series in the letters page). I bought Murder #3 there (edited by Robin Snyder), my first issue of Love & Rockets (#20), even my first issue (#37) of Gene Kehoe's It's a Fanzine (a small-press fanzine normally available only by mail). I bought The Killing Joke there, and read it on a bench near the store, waiting for my family to finish their shopping in lovely downtown Wyandotte before we went home. (Wyandotte Record Exchange was nearby, too, and Stoner's Hobby Shop was on the next block, both of which were also highly influential to me.)  Unfortunately, Comic Gallery was not long for this world, closing sometime in 1989.

     I was reduced to going back to Book Bin after that and thinking how pathetic it seemed, this place that had once been so exciting. In a letter dated November 8, 1989 (a few days before I turned 19 years old), I wrote to a friend: "I went to Book Bin today; they're 25-cent thing sucked, so here's what I ended up getting: Warlock Special Edition #4 ($1.00), Ms. Marvel #17 (25 cents), Strange Suspense Stories #66 (Charlton 1963 issue, $1.00), Tower of Shadows #8 (Marvel, $1.00), Defenders #42 (50 cents), 57-60, 67, 68 ($1.00 each). Believe it or not, that Ms. Marvel ish & an issue of Nova were the only 'old' Marvels in the 25-cent boxes! Everything was failed new stuff. If I had wanted to, I'm sure I could have bought up a whole collection of Power Pack, Alpha Flight, & the New Universe titles for under $10.00! While I was there two guys my age came in, buying comics & -- I felt like I was 'slumming' actually buying, y'now, superhero comics, even if they are better than current superhero comics -- and I overheard the two guys talk about some comic & the other goes 'Yeah, well, I don't buy DCs' & the other says 'Oh, well, me neither, but this one was a good one...' It's like... what morons. I thought 1986 had changed all that. It's like I told you before, Book Bin exists in a time warp where 1986 never happened! It's weird." (1986 being the year that Watchmen came out. I bought the first two issues of that series in one purchase when #2 was released, having been informed about its impending arrival in the Dec. 1985 issue of Mile High Futures, which contained a long interview with Alan Moore. I may have initially bought Watchmen at Book Bin, come to think of it.)

     By the time I was 18 or 19, and reading The Comics Journal, buying Love and Rockets (both of which I got mail subscriptions to at that time, to make sure I'd not miss an issue), I felt isolated and disparaging toward new mainstream comics. What I saw, I couldn't stand. I'd stopped "collecting" Captain America for a year back in 1984-85 (missing #301-311), and bought it semi-regularly until 1989 when I had to give it up -- it couldn't hold a candle to my memories of the comic's glory days. It's funny to think how old I felt then, but how young I seem to myself in retrospect. 

     Here are some quotes from my letters during that period which provide a real-time record of my attitude toward comics at the time:

- May 14, 1989 (age 18): "Maybe, on second thought, a few minutes after pondering, I shouldn't go to 7-11 & get comics. It'd just be a waste of money. Yeah. Besides, I've enough to read as it is. I have comics at home I've never read (almost complete runs of Marvel-Two-In-One, Powerman/Iron Fist & Micronauts, in fact, which I've never touched). Maybe I should sell all my Spideys, Hulks, Avengers, etc. I dunno. It all seems so pointless. I have a lot of old Defenders & I keep saying one day I should get all the issues I don't have, but who cares? I've (the new) Superman #1-23, but I've stopped buying it. It's just a waste of time & money. I don't rilly care about All-Star Squadron now that it's cancelled (cancellation tends to plague my faves), but I've a lot of 'em. But why bother to get the missing issues now?"

- June 3, 1989: "DC has rilly sold out. I have here & now decided that I shall never buy a comicbook by the following publishers: MARVEL, DC, ECLIPSE, FIRST, ARCHIE, HARVEY, COMICO, NOW, or any other comics publisher that supports assembly-line production."

- June 23, 1989: "I feel so lost w/the Marvel & DC comics, that's basically why I don't read them anymore. Like I was saying, when I used to read Batman, CRISIS was just winding up, every DC series was getting rearranged & renumbered & it was pretty exciting. You had Moore on Swamp-Thing (and planning to do WATCHMEN), Miller on Dark Knight and Batman for 4 issues, Byrne beginning the Superman mini-series which reintroduced the character, nobody was sure whether Batman had a yellow circle around his chest or not after CRISIS (and here CRISIS was done to END confusion!), so some issues he did, some he didn't [this comment was likely prompted by a sentence in Gene Kehoe's "It's a Fan-gene" column in IAF #37], you had the last issue of WW, a 4-issue L.S. [mini-series], & the new #1 all within about 8 months span [actually 12 months]. IT WAS COOL! Then it collapsed. Byrne's Superman got dumb, Miller left to do Elektra: Assassin, WW got too confusing for me, all the new #1's (Flash, JL, etc.) were dumb & the Batman creative team changed so many times & the tie-ins with Millenium so confusing, Moore left Swamp-Thing, & the only good DC comic was Watchmen. Now, the only good DC comic is V For Vendetta. I think V's already over, but I'm missing some of the last issues. On the Marvel front, I stopped buying Cap because of Gruenwald when Cap became The Captain, & I stopped buying Classic X-Men when the Bolton back-up tales got boring, & Thor & Spidey are just getting a wee bit too involved for me. I just want to buy a comic where I don't have to have been following it for the past ten issues to know what's going on. Besides, I'm growing sick of mainstream comics overall; I hate their "product" mentality. So, now the only things I read are Comics Journal and Love & Rockets. ....One of the problems is that I can never get the comics I'd like to get because, even when Comic Gallery was around, they're so hard to find. While every comic shop carries junk like Suicide Squad and Doom Patrol, & you can find all their back issues in there, good comics like Raw, Hup, Rip Off Comix, [all three of which I'd never actually read but wanted to] & the like are unbelievably difficult to find. The only place I've ever even SEEN an issue of Rip Off was in one on the shops in Lansing [waaaayy far away] & I've NEVER seen the other two. That's why going to a comics shop isn't such a big thrill for me because I know I prolly won't see anything I want except for maybe a Cerebus or a graphic novel, or a Weird Wonder Tales in the grody comics box, if I'm lucky."

(Note: June 23rd was the day that the Tim Burton-directed Batman movie premiered, but to this day I have never seen it, nor most of the other superhero-based movies.)

- October 2, 1989: "....Whereas I used to buy Marvels & DCs every time I went to Lawsons, since Lawsons closed, I've stopped buying them & neither company holds any interest for me WHATSOEVER, ever since I've been buying more independent comics. Oh, by the way, there's a difference between 'independents' like Eclipse, First, Now, Dark Horse, Comico, etc. which are more like DC or Marvel than independents (REAL independents) like Catalan, Raw, Fantagraphics, Last Gasp, Kitchen Sink, Rip Off, etc. which have practically no similarity to Marvel, DC, Eclipse, Dark Horse, etc.-type books."

- June 14, 1990 (age 19): "I haven't bought a Marvel comic (or DC, Eclipse, First, etc) in ages & have no intention of buying them in the future!"

- October, 1990: "I was surprised [at a friend's house]; he had recent issues of various DCs & Marvels lying around -- I haven't seen a recent DC or Marvel in ages -- but they were the same old Marvel/DC superhero tripe. Can't see why he wastes time on it."

- December 5, 1990 (a month after I turned 20 years old): "I bet I prolly praised DC a lot [in my late 1980s letters]. Well, I did that because of the DCs being done at the time; 1984 to 1988 was, like, DC's little 'DC Age' I guess. They had nothing to lose so they took some chances and they did better comics than Marvel was doing at the time (Romita Jr. on X-Men (ugh!), Secret Wars II, "The New Universe," DeFalco & Frenz on Spider-Man, etc.) (even Cap, Hulk, Iron Man, Avengers, Defenders, Daredevil, etc, sucked at the time & Thor was getting run into the ground by Simonson (he started out good) & Byrne was doing the same to the FF (Byrne's first 25 issues of FF were great; after that, it got stupid!)) In fact, Marvel still sucks! (as does DC now). Maybe I liked Marvel back in the late '70s & early 80s 'cos I was a kid then. Anyway, back to DC: they had Alan Moore, Frank Miller, Howard Chaykin, Jack Kirby, John Byrne, Stephen Bissette, George Perez, Keith Giffen, Bill Sienkiewicz, Jerry Ordway, Gil Kane, Marv Wolfman, Roy Thomas, Todd McFarlane, Brian Bolland, etc.! I think DC's last hurrahs were Arkham Asylum, V For Vendetta, & Perez's run on Wonder Woman. Now it's over! Around ten of the above names no longer work for DC. They still have some pretty weird titles (Hellblazer, The Sandman, Pirahna Press titles, etc.) and are prolly more 'adult' (i.e. trying to be adult by using bad words, extreme gore, sex & naked women) than Marvel in the 'Recommended for Mature Readers' line, but their regular 'Comics Code Approved' comics look just like Marvels!....So, to summarize, my current feelings are that DC & Marvel & Eclipse & Comico & First, etc. suck. I seriously doubt that I'll ever change my mind about that. What comics am I excited about these days? Mainly Love & Rockets. I haven't seen too many truly alternative comics 'round these parts (the reason I can get L&R is I have a sub!)."

     Around 1991, I let my subscriptions to the Journal and L&R lapse and I stayed away from new comics for the most part until early 1997 when I started hanging around internet message boards about comics and pre-ordering new stuff from the Previews catalog (which a local shop heavily promoted, to get people to start pull lists). As I look at my evolution outlined above, I'm reminded of Dylan's line from "My Back Pages": "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now."

Tuesday, June 17, 2014

Best Comic Books of 1989 (The 1989 R.A.C. Awards Poll)

     I didn't get home access to the internet until early 1997, and hadn't posted on the internet until the year before. But some folks have been posting online since the 1980s, and many of those posts can still be found online. Back in the late 1990s, you could find old newsgroup posts on DejaNews, but these days the place to find them is on Google Groups

     It can be a bit tricky to navigate, however, and there's more there than an initial search might reveal.  With patience, however, you can scroll back in time to see what folks were talking about way back when. In some ways, it doesn't seem long ago at all. In other ways, it does seem like a long time ago.  

     Below is a post by Ryan D. Mathews that was posted on the newsgroup rec.arts.comics on February 14, 1990, presenting the results of his fellow posters' choices for the best comics (and creators) of the previous year, 1989. (Around 50 people voted.) Reading something like this makes me wish that I had been online myself back in those early days.  

     This 1989 poll, and other newsgroup polls from both before and after 1989, can be found here. That website posts just the results, while I have retained the complete text of the original post below. This poll also contains (at the end) a survey for fan choices for the best comics of the entire decade of the 1980s. 

     Who knows, I may decide to unearth more old internet postings and share them here on this blog.
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Results of the 1989 R.A.C Comics Awards Poll


 
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Subject: Results of the 1989 R.A.C Comics Awards Poll
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THE POLLS ARE CLOSED...

Well, it's been almost two months, but here it is. The official word
on what us r.a.c'ers liked the most about comics in 1989. I've had fun
compiling this poll, but I've also found out why some people called me
a masochist when I announced that I was doing the poll this year.

There are some surprises to be found in this year's results:

- For the first time, a single entry was a contender for both Favorite
Character and Favorite R.A.C'er 
- Possibly the biggest blowout ever in poll history occurred, due to
the addition of a new catagory.  
- The two gods of the R.A.C Poll both faced stiff competition, and one
of them had to settle for a tie.

Since it could in some way have altered the accuarcy of the poll, I
feel you deserve to know the biggest problems I had in running this
thing. Those of you who would rather read the results than listen to
me whine, feel free to page ahead.

** When the poll is run next year (assuming I'm still doing it, and,
unless something weird happens, that will be the case) I will
explicitly state NO TIE VOTES! I got a few this time. I thought about
various courses of action, including writing these people and telling
them to redo what was in some cases the entire poll, but eventually I
caved in, based mostly on the fact that I had never actually said "no
ties", and gave multiple votes. Now, this shouldn't affect the
accuracy too much, since such votes were only about 5 of the about 50
people who voted, and also since the tie votes tended to consist of
votes for obscure creators, characters, or books that weren't going to
get more than one vote anyway. (BTW, fractional votes are out of the
question. I HATE fractions.)

** There's a hole in the catagories that I hadn't seen. I guess I
figured, the catagories had been used before, the bugs must have been
worked out, right? [BUZZ!] Wrong! Look at the following catagories.

Favorite limited series, 12 or fewer issues
Favorite book, more than 12 issues
Favorite new continuing series

I was sure that this covered everything. Then I realized that some
comics don't put out 12 issues a year. All comics that did not have
their #1 issue published in 1989, yet still hadn't made it to #12 fell
through this hole. This in no way affects accuracy, it just means that
certain comics (usually independents) didn't get a catagory. I will
fix this next year by replacing "more than 12 issues" with
"established" simply meaning that the title is more than a year old.

I believe the cancelled Stinz was one of these comics. Some voters got
around this by voting for it as a limited series. Which brings me to
my next gripe.

** This was an honor poll. By that I meant that I hoped everyone would
hold themselves to the restrictions on what qualified and what didn't.
As far as I know, everyone did so, but there were a few mistakes. I
have a long way to go before I am a certified expert on comics. Still,
I did catch some (I hope most) of the mistakes. When multiple people
made the same "mistake", however, I had to assume that they knew what
they were talking about. So if you see some things in the results that
you know didn't qualify, please don't flame me. I did my best.

** By a strange quirk, Sandman qualified for both new series and
series with more than 12 issues, since I didn't explicitly say
anything about when those 12 issues had to be published. Oh, well,
another one for experience.

Despite those few minor problems, I still think this is an accurate
view of the tastes of r.a.c'ers, due mainly to the size of the
sampling. This poll was successful beyond my wildest dreams, netting
nearly 50 voters (I had initially hoped for 20, based on the response
to a trivia contest last year). This should drown out any anomalies.

The make-your-own-catagory bit was successful as well. I've compiled
those and am sending them out as a separate post.

Anyway, here they are...
The results of The Official 1989 R.A.C Comic Awards Poll!

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Favorite artist:
This was a tossup between McFarlane and Sienkiewicz for most of the
two-month polling period, with McKean coming from behind. 

Dave McKean.............9
Todd McFarlane..........5
Bill Sienkiewicz........5
Alan Davis..............3
Gerhard.................3
Norm Breyfogle..........2
Paul Chadwick...........2
Adam Hughes.............2
Scott McCloud...........2
Angel Medina............2
Walter Simonson.........2
Reed Waller.............2
Tied with one: Art Adams, Kyle Baker, Donna Barr, Brian Bolland, John
Byrne, Keith Giffen, Jaime Hernandez, Jamie Hewlett, Brendan McCarthy,
John J. Muth, Tim Sale, Mark Schultz, Matashume Shiro, Dave Sim, Bryan
Talbot, John Totleben, Michael Zulli

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Favorite writer:
Well, the result is what we expected, but look at the margin of
victory! Moore needed some late votes to put Morrison away; Gaiman
came on late.

Alan Moore..............9
Neil Gaiman.............8
Grant Morrison..........8
Dave Sim................7
Peter David.............3
Ben Edlund..............3
Keith Giffen............3
Chester Brown...........2
Scott McCloud...........2
Tied with one: Donna Barr, Jim Bricker, Paul Chadwick, Alan Grant,
Gilbert Hernandez, Larry Marder, Hiyado Miyazaki, Ann Nocenti, Mark
Schultz, Dave Sim, Roy Thomas, Mark Verheiden, Kate Worley

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Favorite creative team:
Another stiff competition. The only reason CC and team one is because
they got the last vote.

Chris Claremont/Alan Davis/Paul Neary......12
Dave Sim/Gerhard...........................11
Neil Gaiman/Sam Keith.......................3
Neil Gaiman/Dave McKean.....................2
Keith Giffen/Tom and Mary Bierbaum..........2
Ann Nocenti/John Romita, Jr/Al Williamson...2
Tied with one: Donna Barr/Hughes/Magyar, Mike Baron/Steve Rude, Jaime
Delano/Richard Piers Rayner, Steve Gerber/ Bryan Hitch, Alan
Grant/Norm Breyfogle, Mark Gruenwald/Paul Ryan, The Brothers
Hernandez, Pat Mills/Kevin O'Neill, Todd McFarlane/Rick Parker, Alan
Moore/David Lloyd, Alan Moore/John Totleben, Grant Morrison/Richard
Case, Grant Morrison/Dave McKean, Roy Thomas/Jackson Guice, Matt
Wagner/Tim Sale/Bernie Mirault, Reed Waller/Kate Worley

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Favorite limited series, 12 or fewer issues:
Well, this doesn't really need saying, does it? V would have won by
more, but I think some people didn't realize it qualified.

V for Vendetta.........13
Stinz...................5
Aliens..................3
Nausicaa................3
Black Orchid............3
Black Kiss..............2
Electric Undertow.......2
Hawkworld...............2
Kings in Disguise.......2
Skreemer................2
Stray Toasters..........2
Tied with one: Adv. of Luther Arkwright, Grey, Justice Inc., Plastic
Man, Predator, Relentless Pursuit, Marshall Law, Meltdown, Moonshadow

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Favorite book, more than 12 issues:
Another predictable result. The aardvark had a lead by the end of
January, and he never let go.

Cerebus................13
Sandman.................6
Zot!....................6
Excalibur...............5
Love and Rockets........3
Grendel.................2
Tied with one: Animal Man, Amazing Spider-Man, Avengers West Coast,
Concrete, Daredevil, Deadline, Doom Patrol, Dr. Fate, Dreamery,
Elementals, Hellblazer, Incredible Hulk, Question, Justice League
America, Legion of Super-Heroes, Miracleman, Nexus, The Spirit,
Starman, Suicide Squad, Usagi Yojimbo, Xenozoic Tales

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Favorite new continuing series:
Nooooo doubt about it!

Sandman................14
L.E.G.I.O.N. '89........5
Animal Man..............3
Appleseed...............2
El Diablo...............2
Legion of Super-Heroes..2
MAZE Agency.............2
The Tick................2
Tied with one: Baker Street, Blackhawks, Crying Freeman, Fission
Chicken, Hepcats, Hero Alliance, The Jam, Legends of the Dark Knight,
Mr. Miracle, Moon Knight, Quasar, Star Trek, Taboo, Unsupervised
Existence

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Favorite single issue of any series:
People wondered why Ellen Eades didn't hold this catagory last year.
Now I know why. Look at this! Can't you guys agree on anything? One
thing seems certain: Sandman is one damn good comic!

Animal Man #5...........2
Animal Man #19..........2
Excalibur #14...........2
Excalibur #16...........2
Grendel #24.............2
Sandman #3..............2
Sandman #4..............2
Sandman #6..............2
Sandman #8..............2
Sandman #9..............2
Sandman #13.............2
V for Vendetta #6.......2
Zot #27.................2
Tied with one: A1 #1, Action Comics Annual #2, Animal Man #15,
Avengers West Coast # , Daredevil #273, Desert Peach #2, Dr.Fate #13,
Doom Patrol #22, Love and Rockets #31, Maze Agency #8, Power Pack #48,
Sam & Max Special, Sandman #2, Silver Surfer #33, Stick Boy #2, V for
Vendetta #7, X-Men #257, Yummy Fur #18

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Comeback Award for most improved book:
Another category that was decided early. The most exciting thing about
this race was the number two spot. Grendel went from no votes to tied
for second in two days near the beginning of February! It has since
taken over the spot entirely. I guess you Grendel fans are
procrastinators, huh?

Doom Patrol............14
Grendel.................5
Fantastic Four..........4
X-Men...................4
Action Comics...........2
Elementals..............2
Tied with one: Avengers West Coast, Alpha Flight, Animal Man, Cerebus,
Dr. Strange, Dragonlance, Dreadstar, Flash, Hup, Legion of
Super-Heroes, New Titans, Silver Surfer

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Favorite character:
Well, well, well! It seems The Cat Who Walks Through Walls has become
a lot more popular since joining Excalibur. Her appearances on the net
haven't hurt, either! But beat Morpheus? Who'da thunk it?

Kitty Pryde.............6
Sandman.................5
Animal Man..............4
Jenny (from Zot!).......4
Batman..................2
Concrete................2
John Constantine........2
Hulk....................2
Josie
 ("Ed the Happy Clown").2
Nightcrawler............2
Spider-Man..............2
Stinz...................2
Tied with one: Beanish, Cerebus, Pellon Cross, Daigoro (Lone Wolf &
Cub), Daredevil, Dr. Strange, Vanth Dreadstar, Vril Dox, Eppy
(Grendel), Firestorm, G'nort, Hopey (Love and Rockets), Jaka, Joker,
Luba (Love and Rockets), Mr. Fantastic, Oscar (Cerebus), Rachel
Summers, The Tick, V, Wimpy (Popeye), Wolverine, Woody (Zot!), Zot

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Favorite comic team:
Fairly tight race between the top 2, with Excalibur pulling away late.

Excalibur..............12
Doom Patrol.............8
Legion of Super-Heroes..4
Avengers................3
Elementals..............3
Fantastic Four..........3
JL(A|E|I)...............3
X-Men...................2
Tied with one: The Bradleys, Brotherhood of Dada (Doom Patrol), Danny
and Suzy (Unsupervised Existence), Gregory and Herman Vermin
(Gregory), Griffy and Zippy, Groo & Rufferto, "Jesus and disciples"
(Yummy Fur), L.E.G.I.O.N, MAZE Agency, "Mezz and the Band" (Nexus),
Power Pack, Sam & Max

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Favorite graphic novel:
Well, there wasn't much worth voting on in this catagory, so this race
was over almost before it began.

Arkham Asylum..........13
Epicurus the Sage.......3
Return to Big Nothing...2
Squadron Supreme........2
Tied with one: Beauty and the Beast : Portrait of Love, Brought to
Light, Daredevil: Love and War, Demon Knight, Dr. Strange/Dr. Doom,
Gregory, Neuromancer, The Shadow Strikes, Wolverine (the Jungle
Adventure)

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Favorite comic strip or cartoon
Was there the slightest question in anyone's mind who would win this
one? Hell, no! The margin was the only mystery, and BOY, what a
margin!

Calvin and Hobbes......34
Doonebury...............4
Far Side................3
Ernie Pook's Comeek.....2
Tied with one: BC, Cathy, If... (from UK Guardian), For Better or For
Worse, Krazy Kat, Life in Hell, Mr.  Boffo, Mother Goose and Grimm, On
the Fasttrack, Tom Toles (Buffalo News' editorial cartoonist)

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Favorite R.A.C'er:
Read it and weep, guys. Moriarty, the man they considered naming this
award after, has to share it. Jayembee had a one vote lead, with the
champ tying it up on the 11th. I'd also like to point out the proud
co-winner of the favorite character catagory, Kitty Pryde, keeping
Peter and Milo company at number 5, making her the first Marvel
character ever to make it to the top 10 in the r.a.c'er poll. You
know, to look at the results, it seems the key to popularity is a
nickname. So from now on, don't call me Ryan Mathews, call me Megaguy!
Naaaaaah!

Jayembee...............14
Moriarity..............14
The Rev. Mom............6
Jim Drew................5
Peter David.............4
Kitty Pryde.............4
Tim Maroney.............4
Milo....................4
Tom Galloway............3
Connie "Fuzzy" Hirsch...3
Chris Jarocha-Ernst.....2
Dan'l Daheny-Oakes......2
Tied with one: Ellen Eades, Eric Sadoyama, Col. G.L. Sicherman, Jim
Van Verth


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The Rec.arts.comics Eighties Awards!!
...were quite interesting. A lot of recent characters and creators
did well, which I didn't expect. Some people simply re-iterated their
choices from the annual poll. 

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Favorite writer:
Well, what do you expect? The voting was merely a formality here.

Alan Moore.............22
Frank Miller............8
Dave Sim................7
Chris Claremont.........4
Gilbert Hernandez.......2
Tied with one: Mark Gruenwald, Phil Foglio, Scott McCloud, Walt
Simonson, Roy Thomas, Matt Wagner

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Favorite artist:
For the longest time, Sienkiewicz was the *only* artist with more than
one vote. Then Perez started to heat up, but it was too little, too
late.

Bill Sienkiewicz.......12
George Perez............4
Dave McKean.............3
John Byrne..............2
Alan Davis..............2
Jaime Hernandez.........2
Kevin Maguire...........2
Steve Rude..............2
John Totleben...........2
Tied with one: Sergio Aragones, Stephen Bissette, Brian Bolland,
Gerhard, Steve Lightle, Scott McCloud, Todd McFarlane, Frank Miller,
Kevin O'Neill, Dave Sim, Walter Simonson, Jim Starlin, Bryan Talbot

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Favorite new character or team:
This surprised me, but maybe it shouldn't have. After all, there were
a lot of characters to choose from.

Excalibur...............4
Sandman.................4
Concrete................3
Elementals..............3
Jenny (from Zot!).......3
Nexus...................3
Miracleman..............3
Kitty Pryde.............3
Rorschach...............2
Tied with one: Animal Man, John Constantine, Maggie Chascarillo,
Cutey Bunney, Damage Control, Dreadstar & Co., Dynamo Joe, Elektra,
Grendel (Hunter Rose), The Judge (Cerebus), Justice League
International, Marshall Law, Kevin Matchstick, Chester Monroe, Billy
Nguyen, Omaha, Torquemada, Stinz, The Tick, Venom, Watchmen, Zot

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Favorite continuing series:
This was predictable as well. The order as you see it was pretty much
the way it was from a few weeks into the race.

Cerebus................11
Swamp Thing.............4
Love and Rockets........3
X-Men...................3
Daredevil...............2
Zot!....................2
Tied with one: Amazing Spider-Man, Akira, Avengers, Concrete,
Detective Comics, Dreadstar, Excalibur, Grimjack, Hulk, Legion of
Super-Heroes, Lone Wolf and Cub, Miracleman, (Claremont's) New
Mutants, Nexus, Omaha the Cat Dancer, Sandman, (Simonson's) Thor, The
Tick

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Favorite limited series:
This was another predictable result, though I expected the margin to
be a little closer. For awhile, it looked like it would be an even
bigger blowout, but DK came on late.

Watchmen....................20
Dark Knight..................7
V for Vendetta...............5
Crisis on Infinite Earths....4
Tied with one: The Adv. of Luther Arkwright, Black Orchid, Dr. Fate,
Elektra: Assassin, Elfquest, Fantastic Four vs. X-Men, Kings in
Disguise, Kitty Pryde and Wolverine, The Longbow Hunters, Mage : The
Hero Discovered, Nausicaa, Stinz, X-Men vs.  Avengers, Villains and
Vigilantes

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Favorite storyline of any series:
Another catagory no-one could agree on. It wasn't until late January
that any storyline other than American Gothic received more than a
single vote.

American Gothic, from Swamp Thing....4
Born Again, from Daredevil...........4
Church and State, from Cerebus.......4
The Elektra Saga, from Daredevil.....3
High Society, from Cerebus...........3
The Asgardian Wars,
   from X-Men and New Mutants........2
Crisis on Infinite Earths............2
Quest for the Key, from Zot!.........2
Tied with one:
 The Armor Wars, from Iron Man
 Batman: Year One, from Batman
 The first Brood story, from X-Men
 Devil's Legacy, from Grendel
 A Dream of Flying, from Miracleman
 Gothic Empire, from Nemesis the Warlock
 The Fear, from Detective Comics
 The Great Darkness Saga, from Legion of Super-Heroes
 Kings in Disguise
 Nightcrawler limited series
 Miracleman Book 3
 Planet Earth, from Zot!
 The Sin-Eater, from Spectacular Spider-Man
 The Spider War, from Omega Men
 Spider-Woman vs. the Viper, from Spider-Woman
 The Surtur Saga, from Thor
 The Trial of Henry Pym, from Avengers
 The second Trigon story, from the New Teen Titans
 Vida Loca, from Love and Rockets
 Watchmen

Well there you have it! The Official R.A.C "Favorites" of 1989. Until
next year, this is your pollster saying:

THANK GOD IT'S OVER! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

   ---------- Ryan Mathews

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